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The 911 Carrera S has a turbo now? The C8 really is special for being an N/A V8 in that kind of platform.
The 911's turbocharged flat-six is down 80 lb-ft of torque against the 'Vette, too, but you wouldn't know it from the stopwatch. Be it 495 American ponies and 470 lb-ft from eight free-breathing cylinders fed to a Tremec eight-speed dual-clutch auto or 443 German thoroughbreds and 390 lb-ft from six pressurized pistons behind a Porsche eight-speed dual-clutch, you're getting to 60 mph from a dead stop in less than 3.0 seconds.
With the Porsche, it takes only 2.9 seconds, but the Corvette needs just 2.8, making it the quickest factory Corvette to 60 mph in history. The advantage carries through the quarter, the Corvette trapping in 11.1 seconds at 123.2 mph and the 911 in 11.2 seconds at 124.3. And these are just the base versions of each car. What a time to be alive.
Oddly, the Porsche looks and feels quicker. Something about the midrange oomph provided by the turbochargers gives the 911 a feeling of supercar urgency, from a stop or a roll, that the ultra-smooth Corvette lacks. The 'Vette's big V-8's power delivery is so smooth and so consistent everywhere in the rev range that it never feels like you've just hit hyperdrive. The cabin is so isolated that you never feel like you're going as fast as you are. It just goes.
Give me the V8 please. Also look at the numbers at the bottom. These cars lay right on top of each other across the board. This is probably not much of a coincidence.
One thing is for sure...this launch version of the C8 is no skidpad queen.
It isn't just the rear end of the Corvette that is sensitive to grip. Even with slightly stickier Michelin Pilot Sport 4S rubber to the 911's non-Corsa Pirelli P Zeros, the Corvette manages 1.04 average lateral g on our skidpad to the 911's 1.09.
Yeah this thing should be down with the 911 which is halfway to the high water mark I was hoping for (C7 GS/Z06). Though it's interesting that despite the understeer purposely dialed in, it's still a superior driving car.
This also would have been an opportune time to mention alignment stuff. But nothing. How about tests between stock alignment and track alignment? I hope someone does this anyway...
The Corvette's default limit-handling behavior is big, fat midcorner understeer, and it shows in the figure-eight laps. The Carrera laid down a truly blistering 22.7-second lap at 0.94 average lateral g to the Corvette's significantly slower 23.3-second lap at only 0.90 g. That's just barely quicker than the previous generation's Z51, which figure-eight master Kim Reynolds always found to be an unpredictable mess in this test despite the numbers it put up. He finds this new car communicative, responsive, and easy to drive (despite said understeer).
So how did that big midcorner push get past the Corvette engineers? We don't think it did. We think it's intentional. The vast majority of Corvettes sold are base models, and the vast majority of customers will never have driven a mid-engine car before, much less one this quick. Understeer is safe, in that it makes it very difficult for the car to oversteer—and when this car does oversteer, it's a very fine line between a sweet little drift and going backward off the road. Drivers who prefer exploring varying degrees of the safety net can choose from ESC Competitive mode when the car is in Sport mode (it's plenty lenient) or one of five Performance Traction Management modes with decreasing levels of computer assistance and intervention.
So I guess this car is sandbagging in the first year. It is probably the right move though to avoid horrible "my C8 tried to kill me" internet viral videos. That's why we can't have nice things.
Brake by wire has some teething issues as well.
The Corvette's brake-by-wire pedal was a particular point of contention among the editors who had a go in both cars. Some had no issue with it. Others noted it would get into ABS before the pedal reached the end of its travel but disagreed about the difficultly in modulating braking once ABS was reached. Walton and I, crazy late brakers that we are, felt we didn't get enough feedback from the pedal and had to learn to anticipate when ABS would kick in while also trying to slow for corners and get the best lap time.
The resistance in the pedal didn't feel proportional to the actual braking force happening, making it feel as if the brakes were fading when they weren't. Bumpy braking zones only made matters worse in the Corvette, as the front wheels fought with the pavement and the ABS. At minimum, it was distracting, and at worst it hurt some of our confidence in the car—despite knowing it needs only 1 foot longer to stop from 60 mph than the Porsche.
Similarly, the 911's steering offered more feedback midcorner; you knew exactly how much front-end grip you had. Not to diminish the Corvette's steering, which was as accurate and precise as the 911's. Indeed, the Corvette's more damped steering was a virtue on faster sections of our makeshift track.
At triple-digit speeds, the Corvette feels solid and planted, but all the extra kickback in the 911's steering makes it feel nervous and light up front the faster you go. Nervous or not, the 911 saw up to 8 mph higher maximum speed on our "track." You can put it down to greater cornering speeds and the ability to roll hard into the throttle just after the apex—having the rear end rotate you slightly in the exit direction as it digs in and whips you off the corner harder than the Corvette could.
Add together those 911 advantages, though, and you get a car that never asks you to think about anything but your own driving. Giving you exactly the feedback you need from your inputs and predictable behavior at every turn, the 911 lets you focus on being a better driver, not driving the car better. It may be a semantic difference, but bear with me.
The Corvette is very nearly this good (and better than any Corvette that's come before it), but having to navigate the limits of the Chevy's ABS and understeer right at the critical moments makes you focus on the car as well as your driving—and thus costs you the precious tenths you lose to the 911. With a time delta this small, the 911 spends less than 1 percent of the lap ahead of the Corvette, and that's where you'll find it. The Corvette makes you feel like you're in a supercar, the 911 makes you feel like you're part of a supercar.
Transmission is excellent.
Where you won't find time is in the Corvette's hot new transmission. Many sports car makers have tried to match Porsche's class-defining PDK dual-clutch gearbox. Precious few have come close. But the Corvette does—on the first try, no less.
Shock tuning is excellent.
You won't find time in the dampers, either. The Corvette's fourth-generation magnetic dampers are the stuff of magic, keeping the car just as planted and confident in the corners as the 911 while providing huge advantages in ride quality.
In its default Tour driving mode, the Corvette rides like a luxury sport sedan while still handling like a mid-engine sports car. Crank it up to Sport mode, and you're roughly where the 911's default ride quality resides, with more vertical motion and louder impacts passed into the cabin. Go all the way to Track mode, and it's pretty stiff, but even then it's never harsh. Even the worst craters in the road are heard in the massive tires more than they're felt in your spine. The Porsche may be a little quicker around a track, but there's no question which car you'd rather drive home on a cruddy aggregate or a freeway cursed with mile after mile of expansion joints.
They also like the 3LT interior.
It's not just impacts, either. The Corvette allows far less engine and road noise into the cabin than the 911. There's more noise from those big tires, especially the front ones right next to your feet, but you can have a whispered conversation at 80 mph in the Corvette. You'll have to speak up a little in the Porsche.
It's just one of the ways in which the Corvette's cabin is nicer than the 911's, a sentence we feared we'd never get to write. The Corvette's notoriously cheap materials, gaping panel gaps, and persistent smell of glue have all been banished—and this was in an early-build car, no less.
The previous Corvette generation showed us Chevrolet could afford to give the car both performance and a nice interior, but the C8 has skipped straight past nice and into proper supercar territory. The leather is the best we've seen and felt in a Corvette by a wide margin, there's no cheap-looking hard plastic anywhere (well … the cupholders are a bit of a wince), and the seats (midgrade GT2s, in this case) strike a balance between comfort and lateral support that even some supercar builders don't get right.
Granted, our Corvette was a top-shelf 3LT trim level with the best interior you can yet buy for the car, but you can do that when the as-tested price is a Silverado less than the 911—which had zero interior dress-up options, at that. Sure, Porsche will wrap the air vent blades in leather if you put enough zeroes on the check, but out of the box, it's a stark field of dark grays and blacks all finished in varying grades of plastic and piano black. Our Carrera didn't even have power seats.
Conclusion
In judging these cars, we kept coming back to priority. If it's the ultimate driving experience you're after, the feeling of car and driver as one, the Porsche is worth those extra as-tested $34,335. If those extra tenths on a racetrack matter most, the Porsche is also worth the money. But even if this is the lens you judge sports cars through, Porsche should still be looking over its shoulder.
It's always been easy to write off the Corvette as producing big numbers with all the grace of 12-pound sledge. No more. If you're willing to give up a little bit of steering feel and learn to work around the brake pedal, you'll find far more car to love in the Corvette. Performance per dollar used to be an excuse to brush away the Corvette's shortcomings. Now, it's a virtue. Exotic and attainable, it finally punches above its weight class in every category, not just one. When it's this damn good, money matters. The Corvette isn't good enough for the price. It's unbeatable.
I think I'm happy with this. It took decades to refine the 911. This is the first year of a mid-engine Corvette. It's only going to get better. This Z51 may have been optioned up to Z06 price range, but the 911 was ZR1 money ($122,640).