Re: Camaro hunting
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:09 am
So this is interesting. First, Goodyear's price is not that much higher than Tire Rack or Discount Tire Direct, which surprised me. I guess there isn't much discount to be had off of the MSRP. But this tire is part of the world of OEM-spec tires, meaning that the OEM works with the tire company, not just to choose a tire, but to tweak and customize a tire for their specific vehicle. Michelin does this as well, and like them, there is more than one version of this Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G2. If we believe Goodyear, the correct product code that was actually OEM is 408038316. EDIT: This is actually the model for the LEFT side. The right side is 408038328. Not sure why Goodyear does not acknowledge this on their site.
EDIT again: I found this: https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/ea ... izes-specs
There is both a P285/35ZR20 listing (lists both numbers) at $330/ea. and a 285/35ZR20 listing (no "P") that also lists both numbers at $332/ea. This is unnecessarily confusing.
EDIT one more time! Ok, the difference is one is 100XL load rated (correct for the car) and the other is 92 load rated (not correct). So $332 is the Goodyear price for both the right and left. It doesn't really indicate different R and L tires on the link Bill posted but when you dig, they do list two different numbers so I am quite certain this a real thing. Would be funny to check the car to see if the tires were on the correct sides.
Discount Tire Direct shows three different models of this tire. Two of them are a right and left for the GM spec tires.
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy- ... g2/p/14149
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy- ... g2/p/14150
The right is $308.98 and the left is $322.39/ea with free shipping which adds up to a total savings of $65.26
Tire Rack lists only the GM tires, which says "Asy/Dir, TPC Spec" and again there is a left and right version (which again have different prices).
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSear ... 0#allTitle
The right version is $308.91/ea and the left version is $322.33. I wonder what TPC is.
Ah, look at this:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech ... 19125323:s
I mean if you decide you like these tires (and they are not rated well, and I also remember the C5 Z06 had an original generation of these which were not well regarded), you need to get the TPC spec ones since those are the ones that were tuned to the car, and the car was tuned to.
EDIT: I said they weren't rated well but the Camaro people seem to like them.
EDIT again: I found this: https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/ea ... izes-specs
There is both a P285/35ZR20 listing (lists both numbers) at $330/ea. and a 285/35ZR20 listing (no "P") that also lists both numbers at $332/ea. This is unnecessarily confusing.
EDIT one more time! Ok, the difference is one is 100XL load rated (correct for the car) and the other is 92 load rated (not correct). So $332 is the Goodyear price for both the right and left. It doesn't really indicate different R and L tires on the link Bill posted but when you dig, they do list two different numbers so I am quite certain this a real thing. Would be funny to check the car to see if the tires were on the correct sides.
Discount Tire Direct shows three different models of this tire. Two of them are a right and left for the GM spec tires.
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy- ... g2/p/14149
https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy- ... g2/p/14150
The right is $308.98 and the left is $322.39/ea with free shipping which adds up to a total savings of $65.26
Tire Rack lists only the GM tires, which says "Asy/Dir, TPC Spec" and again there is a left and right version (which again have different prices).
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSear ... 0#allTitle
The right version is $308.91/ea and the left version is $322.33. I wonder what TPC is.
Ah, look at this:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech ... 19125323:s
Whelp....TPC is GM. So if these are the right tires, and both Tire Rack and Discount Tire Direct say there is a right and left tire (so much for rotating, lol).Make
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I mean if you decide you like these tires (and they are not rated well, and I also remember the C5 Z06 had an original generation of these which were not well regarded), you need to get the TPC spec ones since those are the ones that were tuned to the car, and the car was tuned to.
EDIT: I said they weren't rated well but the Camaro people seem to like them.